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		<title>By: Josh Hanagarne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Hanagarne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the good discussion, Alex.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 12:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do I think of that quote? It gives me the impression that David Foster Wallace&#039;s idea of what makes a good satire and my own are very different. But there is no accounting for humour. Leaving the violence out of the equation, you either find the book funny or you don&#039;t. And any humour denies that society is completely bleak: if you can laugh at something then you have a sense of perspective and can still find joy somewhere. Another book about 80s excess that is hilarious is &quot;Money&quot; by Martin Amis. Once again the narrator is unloveable, but that doesn&#039;t make for a bleak book.

Comedy requires some simplification, but to be honest with you, although the characters are caricatures, how far from the truth are they really? There is quite enough reality in their doings and obsessions to make them still believable. In fact, considering that the book was penned in the late 80s, it is incredible how relevant it still is. It could just as easily have been written last year. Moronic bankers with obscene bonuses are even more prevalent today; there is the same obsession with materialism, power and prestige and the cult of the self.

I find it ironic that you should choose to quote an author lambasting a dark and nihilistic world view, when that same author committed suicide due to chronic depression. Whereas  BEE seems to be a fairly cheerful soul who doesn&#039;t take himself too seriously. I&#039;m not familar with David Foster Wallace&#039;s work. Is it entertaining? In am also wary of authors&#039; views on other authors. The literary world is awash with feuds and jealousies.

I decided in the end not to post a review of the book on my blog, as it seems to be covering very old ground. I read a lot of reviews and looked at BEE video interviews. I came to the conclusion that some people wouldn&#039;t know satire if it hit them in the face. I do think he overdid the violence aspect, but I don&#039;t think this makes it a bad book and I think that the writing is excellent. This is not Dan Brown.

I have only seen excerpts from the film, but it would appear that the tone of the book is faithfully rendered. Perhaps those who criticise the latter just needed it spelt out for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do I think of that quote? It gives me the impression that David Foster Wallace&#8217;s idea of what makes a good satire and my own are very different. But there is no accounting for humour. Leaving the violence out of the equation, you either find the book funny or you don&#8217;t. And any humour denies that society is completely bleak: if you can laugh at something then you have a sense of perspective and can still find joy somewhere. Another book about 80s excess that is hilarious is &#8220;Money&#8221; by Martin Amis. Once again the narrator is unloveable, but that doesn&#8217;t make for a bleak book.</p>
<p>Comedy requires some simplification, but to be honest with you, although the characters are caricatures, how far from the truth are they really? There is quite enough reality in their doings and obsessions to make them still believable. In fact, considering that the book was penned in the late 80s, it is incredible how relevant it still is. It could just as easily have been written last year. Moronic bankers with obscene bonuses are even more prevalent today; there is the same obsession with materialism, power and prestige and the cult of the self.</p>
<p>I find it ironic that you should choose to quote an author lambasting a dark and nihilistic world view, when that same author committed suicide due to chronic depression. Whereas  BEE seems to be a fairly cheerful soul who doesn&#8217;t take himself too seriously. I&#8217;m not familar with David Foster Wallace&#8217;s work. Is it entertaining? In am also wary of authors&#8217; views on other authors. The literary world is awash with feuds and jealousies.</p>
<p>I decided in the end not to post a review of the book on my blog, as it seems to be covering very old ground. I read a lot of reviews and looked at BEE video interviews. I came to the conclusion that some people wouldn&#8217;t know satire if it hit them in the face. I do think he overdid the violence aspect, but I don&#8217;t think this makes it a bad book and I think that the writing is excellent. This is not Dan Brown.</p>
<p>I have only seen excerpts from the film, but it would appear that the tone of the book is faithfully rendered. Perhaps those who criticise the latter just needed it spelt out for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Caley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2011 06:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference between a great book and the rest is not how shocking or controversial it is. A great book is well written, has a strong plot, and interesting character development. Through those and other writing techniques a purpose is developed, a point is illustrated. This gore fluff is simplistic in writing and the point is lost in all the boring inane details. There is no plot, no character development and no reason for this book to be a &quot;cult classic&quot;. At least the movie doesn&#039;t drag on and on to no concievable end. I ask what was the point? What part of this satires consumerism and 80&#039;s greed? He should try developing a plot and quit relying on shock value to bring a popularity he doesn&#039;t deserve.  Read a Jonathan Swift novel and see how a great author creates satire. Or open a psychology book and realise that Bateman is nothing like the profile of the real serial killers Ellis so likes referencing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between a great book and the rest is not how shocking or controversial it is. A great book is well written, has a strong plot, and interesting character development. Through those and other writing techniques a purpose is developed, a point is illustrated. This gore fluff is simplistic in writing and the point is lost in all the boring inane details. There is no plot, no character development and no reason for this book to be a &#8220;cult classic&#8221;. At least the movie doesn&#8217;t drag on and on to no concievable end. I ask what was the point? What part of this satires consumerism and 80&#8242;s greed? He should try developing a plot and quit relying on shock value to bring a popularity he doesn&#8217;t deserve.  Read a Jonathan Swift novel and see how a great author creates satire. Or open a psychology book and realise that Bateman is nothing like the profile of the real serial killers Ellis so likes referencing.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Hanagarne</title>
		<link>http://worldsstrongestlibrarian.com/2488/book-review-american-psycho/comment-page-1/#comment-28518</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Hanagarne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, what do you think of this quote from David Foster Wallace re: AP? 

&quot;You’re just displaying the sort of cynicism that lets readers be manipulated by bad writing. I think it’s a kind of black cynicism about today’s world that Ellis and certain others depend on for their readership. Look, if the contemporary condition is hopelessly shitty, insipid, materialistic, emotionally retarded, sadomasochistic, and stupid, then I (or any writer) can get away with slapping together stories with characters who are stupid, vapid, emotionally retarded, which is easy, because these sorts of characters require no development. With descriptions that are simply lists of brand-name consumer products. Where stupid people say insipid stuff to each other. If what’s always distinguished bad writing—flat characters, a narrative world that’s cliched and not recognizably human, etc.—is also a description of today’s world, then bad writing becomes an ingenious mimesis of a bad world. If readers simply believe the world is stupid and shallow and mean, then Ellis can write a mean shallow stupid novel that becomes a mordant deadpan commentary on the badness of everything. Look man, we’d probably most of us agree that these are dark times, and stupid ones, but do we need fiction that does nothing but dramatize how dark and stupid everything is? In dark times, the definition of good art would seem to be art that locates and applies CPR to those elements of what’s human and magical that still live and glow despite the times’ darkness. Really good fiction could have as dark a worldview as it wished, but it’d find a way both to depict this world and to illuminate the possibilities for being alive and human in it. You can defend &quot;Psycho&quot; as being a sort of performative digest of late-eighties social problems, but it’s no more than that.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, what do you think of this quote from David Foster Wallace re: AP? </p>
<p>&#8220;You’re just displaying the sort of cynicism that lets readers be manipulated by bad writing. I think it’s a kind of black cynicism about today’s world that Ellis and certain others depend on for their readership. Look, if the contemporary condition is hopelessly shitty, insipid, materialistic, emotionally retarded, sadomasochistic, and stupid, then I (or any writer) can get away with slapping together stories with characters who are stupid, vapid, emotionally retarded, which is easy, because these sorts of characters require no development. With descriptions that are simply lists of brand-name consumer products. Where stupid people say insipid stuff to each other. If what’s always distinguished bad writing—flat characters, a narrative world that’s cliched and not recognizably human, etc.—is also a description of today’s world, then bad writing becomes an ingenious mimesis of a bad world. If readers simply believe the world is stupid and shallow and mean, then Ellis can write a mean shallow stupid novel that becomes a mordant deadpan commentary on the badness of everything. Look man, we’d probably most of us agree that these are dark times, and stupid ones, but do we need fiction that does nothing but dramatize how dark and stupid everything is? In dark times, the definition of good art would seem to be art that locates and applies CPR to those elements of what’s human and magical that still live and glow despite the times’ darkness. Really good fiction could have as dark a worldview as it wished, but it’d find a way both to depict this world and to illuminate the possibilities for being alive and human in it. You can defend &#8220;Psycho&#8221; as being a sort of performative digest of late-eighties social problems, but it’s no more than that.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Hanagarne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Hanagarne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, thanks for the comment. When you get your review up, please feel free to come post a link in this thread. I&#039;m willing to take another look. It&#039;s been nearly a decade since I read it. Could be I&#039;ll see things differently. Maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, thanks for the comment. When you get your review up, please feel free to come post a link in this thread. I&#8217;m willing to take another look. It&#8217;s been nearly a decade since I read it. Could be I&#8217;ll see things differently. Maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading American Psycho at the moment and confess to being very unimpressed with your review. So I have written my own which I&#039;ll put up in a couple of days on www.gliddofglood.com when I&#039;ve finished the book.
To stop at the violence and sex scenes is to miss all the humour, the farce, the musical jokes, the ironic distance between the author and narrator, and sheer quality of the writing.

I am enjoying it hugely, even if the violence is somewhat stomach churning. But this is a book that is about a lot more than violence. The violence in Stephen King&#039;s novels is pretty graphic, from the very few I have read. But then King is all about frightening you. Ellis has a lot more to say - so why should he be lambasted for his gory descriptions? The book is more about a culture or a strata of society than it is about murder. In fact, murder just appears to be the ultimate manifestation of Patrick Bateman&#039;s dysfunctional personality.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, naturally. But just saying that you don&#039;t like it because it is hateful is not a very trenchant piece of criticism. Your PS is quite enlightening: &quot; The movie of American Psycho is actually quite good, but it is satirical and has some funny moments.&quot; Er, the novel is already satirical and is stuffed with funny moments. Why is this so hard  to see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading American Psycho at the moment and confess to being very unimpressed with your review. So I have written my own which I&#8217;ll put up in a couple of days on <a href="http://www.gliddofglood.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gliddofglood.com</a> when I&#8217;ve finished the book.<br />
To stop at the violence and sex scenes is to miss all the humour, the farce, the musical jokes, the ironic distance between the author and narrator, and sheer quality of the writing.</p>
<p>I am enjoying it hugely, even if the violence is somewhat stomach churning. But this is a book that is about a lot more than violence. The violence in Stephen King&#8217;s novels is pretty graphic, from the very few I have read. But then King is all about frightening you. Ellis has a lot more to say &#8211; so why should he be lambasted for his gory descriptions? The book is more about a culture or a strata of society than it is about murder. In fact, murder just appears to be the ultimate manifestation of Patrick Bateman&#8217;s dysfunctional personality.</p>
<p>Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, naturally. But just saying that you don&#8217;t like it because it is hateful is not a very trenchant piece of criticism. Your PS is quite enlightening: &#8221; The movie of American Psycho is actually quite good, but it is satirical and has some funny moments.&#8221; Er, the novel is already satirical and is stuffed with funny moments. Why is this so hard  to see?</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admittedly, I love American Psycho. Something I am a little curious about is whether or not men have a different reaction to it than women? The brutality, I&#039;m thinking, more; I tended to overlook the sex because objectification is something I&#039;ve become very used to for reasons I&#039;m not going to detail, but I&#039;m just curious, really. Personally, I revel in controversial works anyway, and I got through this without too many twinges, although a few scenes in particular caused me to ponder the point. If I was male and reading this, would I interpret it differently?

I do think, however, that Mary Harron and Guinevere Turner&#039;s adaptation hit the nail on the head; I&#039;m not usually a fan of adaptations, but the underlying message carried through so clearly without the explicit content and Bale&#039;s turn as Patrick Bateman was excellent. 

Oh, and it&#039;s nice to see some more Hunter S. Thompson fans around. (:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly, I love American Psycho. Something I am a little curious about is whether or not men have a different reaction to it than women? The brutality, I&#8217;m thinking, more; I tended to overlook the sex because objectification is something I&#8217;ve become very used to for reasons I&#8217;m not going to detail, but I&#8217;m just curious, really. Personally, I revel in controversial works anyway, and I got through this without too many twinges, although a few scenes in particular caused me to ponder the point. If I was male and reading this, would I interpret it differently?</p>
<p>I do think, however, that Mary Harron and Guinevere Turner&#8217;s adaptation hit the nail on the head; I&#8217;m not usually a fan of adaptations, but the underlying message carried through so clearly without the explicit content and Bale&#8217;s turn as Patrick Bateman was excellent. </p>
<p>Oh, and it&#8217;s nice to see some more Hunter S. Thompson fans around. (:</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Hanagarne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Hanagarne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 03:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 minutes? Bravo! You could have a novel by morning if you could keep that pace up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 minutes? Bravo! You could have a novel by morning if you could keep that pace up.</p>
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		<title>By: lordielordie</title>
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		<dc:creator>lordielordie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 03:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. AP is one of the greatest pieces of literature you can possibly read. Like you took the dare, I took it at 12 years old! in grade 7 I asked my english teacher what his favorite book was and he told me he would not tell me, after asking and asking, he finally told me never to read it, but it was AP. After school I walked to chapters(local bookstore) and bought it. I began reading, and reached the sex and gore and was disgusted. I must have attempted over 10 times to read it, but it was revolting, I felt like gaging at some points. Now I am older, currently 17. I love literature, read every play written by Shakespeare, Lord of the flies, 1984, A clockwork orange Ect. I basically burned through some of the greatest books ever in a period of 3 years. I must have read american psycho over 30 times, and now the gore and sex and all that twisted stuff makes me laugh. IT&#039;S INSANE. it&#039;s so out of this world. It teaches people to look through the Designer suits, nice haircuts, BUSINESS CARDS and nice apartments ect. Its an extremely important piece of literature and I hope it is never forgotten. It also makes lord of the flies look like a book made for 7 year olds.
@ Flagmonkey, you obviously don&#039;t know anything about literature, The gore, blood, twisted sex and all that is just the thoughts of a man losing his sanity. Using the detail that Ellis used serves as a literary technique to make a sane person feel nauseous towards how sick a person can be. How insane someone can think, BUT that insane person can be a rich guy on wall street and you would never see that coming. People like Oj simpson who obviously was a murderer got out of trouble, Because he&#039;s famous, rich and well off, and that just makes him a good person? Who would you point your finger at first, a low life that drinks and has nothing or christian bale a rich business man living in a million dollar apartment. The book shows how people are ignorant and chose to not pay attention to the people who are wealthy and will always point their fingers at the person who is lower in society.
Sorry for any spelling mistakes and grammar errors, my passion towards the subject pushed me towards writing all that in a span of 2 minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. AP is one of the greatest pieces of literature you can possibly read. Like you took the dare, I took it at 12 years old! in grade 7 I asked my english teacher what his favorite book was and he told me he would not tell me, after asking and asking, he finally told me never to read it, but it was AP. After school I walked to chapters(local bookstore) and bought it. I began reading, and reached the sex and gore and was disgusted. I must have attempted over 10 times to read it, but it was revolting, I felt like gaging at some points. Now I am older, currently 17. I love literature, read every play written by Shakespeare, Lord of the flies, 1984, A clockwork orange Ect. I basically burned through some of the greatest books ever in a period of 3 years. I must have read american psycho over 30 times, and now the gore and sex and all that twisted stuff makes me laugh. IT&#8217;S INSANE. it&#8217;s so out of this world. It teaches people to look through the Designer suits, nice haircuts, BUSINESS CARDS and nice apartments ect. Its an extremely important piece of literature and I hope it is never forgotten. It also makes lord of the flies look like a book made for 7 year olds.<br />
@ Flagmonkey, you obviously don&#8217;t know anything about literature, The gore, blood, twisted sex and all that is just the thoughts of a man losing his sanity. Using the detail that Ellis used serves as a literary technique to make a sane person feel nauseous towards how sick a person can be. How insane someone can think, BUT that insane person can be a rich guy on wall street and you would never see that coming. People like Oj simpson who obviously was a murderer got out of trouble, Because he&#8217;s famous, rich and well off, and that just makes him a good person? Who would you point your finger at first, a low life that drinks and has nothing or christian bale a rich business man living in a million dollar apartment. The book shows how people are ignorant and chose to not pay attention to the people who are wealthy and will always point their fingers at the person who is lower in society.<br />
Sorry for any spelling mistakes and grammar errors, my passion towards the subject pushed me towards writing all that in a span of 2 minutes.</p>
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